God's Forgiveness?

X.  Why do I need God's forgiveness? To enter his kingdom? To avoid eternal torment in his sadistic torture chamber? So you can be accepted by his hypocritical flan club? Ignore for the moment that the reasons listed are shameless attempts to manipulate the minds of the weak and a doubly shameful attempt to manipulate the mind of a child, it is absurd for anyone to ask for moral forgiveness from one of the most morally delinquent entities ever.

Yahweh is a hypocrite he commands you ask forgiveness for petty things like coveting and if you do not repent you will face eternity of torment in his torture chamber. But think of how absurd it truly absurd it is to ask forgiveness from this deity. Truly it is like Ted Haggard commanding you repent for your 'deviant' sexual activities it is beyond absurd... Now back to the example of coveting God commands that you never want anything you do not already have and to be content with what you have. Granted it is good advice and it will lead to a more content and happy life but look at who it is coming from. The Christian deity has committed this act he declares as a sin more than any person to ever live or ever to live. He has everything he could possibly want and has the ability to wave his magic wand and conjure anything he wants. But yet he covets something he can never have, your blind faith and obedience. He gets angry when he doesn't get this and he is extremely petty. He flooded the entire earth, committed genocide, and destroyed entire cities because of his vanity because they would not blindly follow. So why ask for his forgiveness when God himself breaks these rules that he himself supposedly made? For a perfect God his sins are very human.

Is Yahweh Someone You Would Wish to Worship?

  I for the sake of argument am going to assume what the bible says is 100% true accurate and literal. Today I am going to pose a single question is Yahweh the Judeo-Christian deity a deity you would wish to worship? In this post I will provide biblical justification for all points made.

If the what the bible says about God is true I could see several reasons why worshiping this deity would be an absurdly immoral thing to do. Firstly this deity commanded genocide to be carried out in his name during the Conquest 0f Cana'an he was ordered to kill everything in this land no man, woman, or child was to be spared. Now is a deity that would order the massacre of woman and children one you would wish to worship? This is simple genocide.

1 Samuel 15:1-3




1Samuel also said unto Saul, The LORD sent me to anoint thee to be king over his people, over Israel: now therefore hearken thou unto the voice of the words of the LORD.
2Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
3Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.


The bible also supports an institution that every industrial nation for the better part of two centuries has abolished and deemed inherently evil. How could a book said to be the word of an omniscient and benevolent deity fail to see the evils that is so blatantly obvious to all individuals not blinded by the mentally crippling doctrine of hate apparent in the system. Not only does the bible say slavery is acceptable it claims that it is perfectly fine to beat these people you claim as your property as seen here.

Exodus 21:20-21

20And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.

21Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.

The bible describes God himself as a slave owner and a cruel one at that.

Luke 12:46-47

46The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

47And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

So far we have a deity that had ordered the deaths of women and children, a deity that had ordered genocide to be carried our in his name, and a deity that fully supports the evil institution of slavery. So what do you think so far? Is he that benevolent shepherd you always thought him to be? I don't know about you but my idea of a virtuous and benevolent deity doesn't exactly entail a genocidal slave owning deity with power issues. It took me only a handful of verses to destroy the facade put on by his followers, this is not a deity worthy of anyone's praise.

Also I think another point could be brought up about the insecurities of God he seems to need your worship but that shouldn't really matter all that much to you if you are an omnipotent, omniscient, and omni-present being. So either God has the same insecurity issues as a typical teenage girl who wants to be accepted or the creators of this false religion knew God only existed in peoples minds and therefore the God would die as soon as we stopped believing. I am going to go with the former as the latter is another topic entirely. Is a God with insecurity issues one you would wish to worship? More important what does this Lord wish to do with those that do not wish to worship him?

Luke 19:27


27But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.


Anyone who does not submit is to be killed, your benevolent deity has advocated genocide once again. This is eerily similar to a end of the book Uncle Tom's Cabin where Tom is asked to submit or be killed by his master (the personification of the evils of slavery). This was said by Simon Legree "I'll conquer ye or kill ye!" now it is pretty bad when you find Jesus and a slave trader conveying the same message.

I think this is a good place to stop there are thousands of verses like what I listed above. But I'm not going to insult you intelligence I believe if you read this correctly you have gotten the point by now. Further more it would take an entire book to go through every last verse that shows the distasteful personality of God.

The Problems With an Objective Morality

First let me define what morality is, I will use a simple definition for the purpose of this post. What is the right and what is wrong.

I have multiple problems with the idea of objective morality. To a certain extent an individual could argue that they are objective, no one would say that killing is acceptable no one believes that theft is acceptable but this is not because of moral reasons but evolutionary ones. How long would a species or society survive if they would kill each other? If things were like that we as a species would have slaughtered each other to the point of extinction. So it is in the best interest of the species and our society that we not kill each other. Let's look at a different situation because quite frankly the idea of objective morality works with the Wizard of Oz type of good and evil but fails in real world application because evil doesn't always put on green makeup and a pointy hat for you. Evil could be something as subtle as intentful inaction and good can be something as simple as being polite to others.

Now let's take the idea of taking another human life obviously our species would not survive if we took this lightly so we as a species we would have gone extinct ages ago. However some individuals can find the taking of human life acceptable in certain situations. Some individuals find the use of lethal force acceptable when they need to defend themselves or their families. Some find killing for a cause acceptable. If morality were something completely objective we would all come to the same conclusions to all moral dilemmas.

Now for my main point against objective morals. If a mother takes a knife and uses it to kill a potential threat to her children would that be an immoral act? If killing is wrong it should be consistently wrong no matter the circumstances. Would you have the nerve to give that mother a lecture on morality? Would you have the nerve to tell her she acted in an improper manor?

Two individuals in the Nazi Germany are confronted with a decision, they could speak out against the genocide going on around them or they could remain silent.  Each individual has to decide what is right given each situation they come to different conclusion as to the proper action or inaction. Person A decides to remain silent because his actions would bring harm to his family. Protecting your family would I hope be a moral thing in your mind. Person B decides to speak out because this injustice cannot go unchallenged but he and his family are killed for this dissent. Speaking out against genocide is to you I hope a moral action.

If morality is something objective than one of these individuals acted improperly. So my challenge to those who believe in an objective moral truth: Tell me which individual acted correctly and justify your answer.

I have heard many people say, "Just because we do not know the objectively moral thing to do does not mean it doesn't exist." I would agree but you just rendered morality unknowable therefore you would merely be left speculating on what the proper morality might be. This renders objective morality meaningless because if it is unknown we might as well be bloviating on what colour underwear Santa's elves are wearing. With an unknowable objective morality any statement about it would be without basis and without merit.

The idea of morals come from people and people vary greatly in many aspects. To try and remove people from a purely human idea is frankly absurd. Some cultures/individuals value things differently but to claim they are wrong to come to a different conclusion in the matter of morality is to claim knowledge you do not have.

If there were an objective moral law and the moral law were consistent the taking of human life would always be wrong no matter the circumstances. I use this example because often time Christians are arguing for an objective moral law but they constantly contradict themselves in this regard and the sad part is they do not even know it. The Christian's moral code is based solely on the judgement values of a single deity, a deity that has trouble abiding by his own rules. How can a deity so inconsistent be the foundation of an objective morality? He tells us we should not kill but then he orders genocide to be carried out in his name, he orders individuals to be stoned for breaking the most trivial of his arbitrary rules. I never seen a individual for killing yet against killing at the same time. That is another thing is your moral code were objectively true it would not break the logical law of noncontradiction which it clearly does.

This would apply to more than just the Christian God. This would apply to any religion that has a deity dictate their moral laws. You are basing all of your moral code on the judgement values of a single deity. Just because they aren't your own subjective take on the right thing to do in a situation doesn't mean that the subjective nature changes.